Representative Don Beyer thinks artificial intelligence is “the most amazing technology since fire.” So what does it mean that most of Congress seems not to understand it? Then our colleague David McCabe discusses a bill that could dramatically expand the Biden administration’s power to ban TikTok.

Plus: what can the video game character Waluigi tell us about A.I. chatbots gone rogue?

On today’s episode:

• Don Beyer is a U.S. representative for Virginia’s 8th Congressional District.
• David McCabe is a reporter at The New York Times covering technology policy.

Additional reading:

• Lawmakers are trying to intelligence-regulation-congress.html">understand the technology behind A.I.
• The White House is house-congress-on-tiktok.html">pushing Congress to regulate TikTok.
• A number of countries are trying to ban.html">ban TikTok.
• The Waluigi effect is a theory about why chatbots behave erratically.