Kate and Aaron are joined by James Kenna, a 40-year Interior Department veteran who wore a number of hats over his decades of public service, including a stint as the California state director at Bureau of Land Management. That gave him a front row seat to land management decisions that would shape America’s energy future. Now he’s weighing in on one of the most important proposals to come from the Biden administration: the public lands rule that would put conservation on equal footing with mining, drilling, grazing, and other uses of federal lands. Submit a comment on the BLM’s proposed Conservation and Landscape Health rule Learn more about the BLM’s proposed Conservation and Landscape Health rule News * Protest at Chaco Canyon deters event to celebrate new federal oil and gas leasing ban – Source NM * All Pueblo Council of Governors statement on events at Chaco – All Pueblo Council of Governors * Legislative Hearing on H.R. 3397 – House Natural Resources Committee * Approval for Idaho phosphate mine reversed after judge rules US didn’t assess prairie bird impact – Associated Press Credits Hosts: Kate Groetzinger & Aaron Weiss  Feedback: podcast@westernpriorities.org Music: Purple Planet Featured image: Pecos River drainage, Bureau of Land Management/Flickr