Cariad talks to writer and campaigner Zoe Clark-Coates from the baby loss charity, Saying Goodbye. Zoe set up Saying Goodbye as part of the Mariposa Trust, after suffering her own five baby losses during pregnancy. Saying Goodbye helps anyone who has lost a baby, at any stage of pregnancy, birth or infancy. As ever they talk grief, asking their name + the power of talking.

You can find out more at sayinggoodbye.org and you can follow Zoe on twitter @clarkcoates and on instagram @zoeadelle. You can also buy Zoe's book, Saying Goodbye and The Baby Loss Guide now. You can follow the Griefcast on twitter and instagram @thegriefcast.

Griefcast won Gold (always believe in your soul) in Best Entertainment, Best Interview + also Podcast of the Year 2018 at the British Podcast Awards and Best Podcast at the ARIA's. It is hosted by Cariad Lloyd, edited by Kate Holland, recorded at Whistledown Studios and the music is provided by The Glue Ensemble. And remember, you are not alone.

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