Natalie and Travis are in their 40s, living in SoCal with their four kids. Travis is a career military man, imprinting him with some pretty understandable tendencies toward conservatism with money. He’s saved and invested heavily for decades, but it’s left him without the muscle memory to enjoy what he’s built. This episode is brought to you by: BetterHelp | Visit betterhelp.com/ramit today to get 10% off your first month. Fabric by Gerber Life | Protect your family today with Fabric by Gerber Life. Apply today in just 10 minutes at meetfabric.com/ramit. DeleteMe | If you want to get your personal information removed from the web, go to joindeleteme.com/ramit for 20% off. Links mentioned in this episode • Netflix show BTS newsletter (limited time only) • Get Money Coaching with Ramit  • Get my New York Times best-selling book Connect with Ramit • Download the Conscious Spending Plan • Get my no-numbers journal • Other episodes • Instagram • Twitter • YouTube If you and your partner have a money issue and you want my help, I occasionally select a couple to work with, free of charge. Apply for my help here. Produced by Crate Media.