Once you’ve come out, what’s next? How do you survive in a world of binaries? How do you do more than just survive? Caitlin and Amrou seek the wisdom and company of performer Travis Alabanza who shares their advice for finding joy in a world that is so often hostile to trans people. Podcaster Morgan M Page tells the hidden tales of trans people thriving throughout history. Presented by Caitlin Benedict & Amrou Al-Kadhi Produced by Caitlin Benedict, Arlie Adlington and Georgia Catt