Jenn Ocken is a fine art and documentary photographer who is obsessed with giving artists the business sense and tactics to take their creative career to the next level. She started a community for creatives called Thriv that provides worksheets, videos, processes, checklists, templates and more to help you run your business in a way that is sustainable and successful. In this episode, we make a deep dive into the headspace of artists, routines and habits, resources and more. If you're in the creative or business fields, this episode is a must-listen.