Recorded live from Weapons of Mass Creation Fest in Cleveland, Ohio, James and Cher sit down with Cristina Vanko to discuss theft and copyright in art and design, burlesque dancers, and the pettiness of $6 guacamole.

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References made during our conversation:

The amazing artwork of Tuesday Bassen.

Cristina's book, “Hand Lettering for Everyone”.

The soundtrack to the road trip from Chicago to Cleveland, Fifth Harmony’s “Work from Home”.

This week’s Postloudness recommendation, UnLearned. UnLearned is a weekly podcast focused on unlearning harmful narratives taught to us about blackness, womanhood, sexuality, and religion. Through their show, they hope to deconstruct these power structures and to create a space of relearning, showing that blackness means many things, that it is comprised of many stories, and that many voices make our choir.

This week's Open Call:

Cristina Vanko: Her 100 days of Adulting blog.

Cher: The 6th Annual Ohio Burlesque Festival.

James: Fleetwood Mac - “Landslide”.

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Script written by Cher and James.

Assistant producer Taz Kelleher

Music by U+1F60C.

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