This week we talk to Ian John-Lewis, one of this countries most experienced boxing referees to hear about exactly what it takes to be a referee and the pressures involved. We also pay tribute to George Groves after he announced his retirement earlier this week. Carl Froch's Fascinating Fact of the Week makes it's return and of course we talk to our man in the know, Mr Kugan Cassius.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.