Jodie and Celia are joined by Frank Meeink, a former white supremacist skinhead who is now a civil rights activist. Frank tells his story, giving insight into how an abused, neglected kid will look for acceptance anywhere – even within a hate group. And then, through becoming close with a Jewish man who was kind to him, he began to let go of his misguided beliefs. Jodie, Celia, and Frank discuss the importance of sobriety, self-confidence, and being of service. Merch: https://unsweetined.com/ Instagram: @neverthoughtidsaythis Facebook: @neverthoughtidsaythis Email: neverthoughtid@protonmail.com