This week, we talk with Justin Stahl about visual design and craft, the impact of design systems and tools on the visual landscape, tactical tips for a stronger design interview, and much more. In The Sidebar, we ask Justin about the best advice he’s ever received, becoming a manager, and knowing when it’s time to switch teams.

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Followup:

• Sam Bernhardt tweeted a more technical name for the confidence gradient concept from two weeks ago: confidence code switching.
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This week, we talk with Justin Stahl about visual design and craft, the impact of design systems and our tools on the visual landscape, tactical tips for a stronger design interview, and much more.

Justin is currently a Director of Product Design at Cruise. Before this, he was a Chief of Staff at Facebook Reality Labs, the Head of Product Design for Portal, and spent years as a product designer working an a wide range of Facebook products.

• The tweet: It's been tough to recruit product designers with great visual design and an eye for detail. Did we atomic-design-system and product-manager-skills a generation out of having them?
• Justin’s website
• @justahl
• Typewar and The Font Game for iPhone
• Scenarios in which Tesla FSD Beta 9.0 will fail
• Not Boring Apps
• The Gap by Ira Glass
• Jasper Hauser
• The Chef’s table episode Brian references
• Jon Lax
• Facebook Reality Labs

Cool Things:

• Brian shared Tiger on HBO, a two-part documentary about the rise and fall of Tiger Woods. Even if you’re not super into sports, it’s worth a watch.
• Marshall shared The First Law Trilogy by Joe Abercrombie. It’s grim-dark fantasy, a good pick for anyone who enjoyed Game of Thrones.
• Justin shared The Ideal City: Exploring Urban Futures, a book which chronicles the design of urban futures.
  • The Last Dance on Netflix.

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