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Michael G. Vickers, author of By All Means Available: Memoirs of a Life in Intelligence, Special Operations, and Strategy and former Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence, joins The Realignment. Michael and Marshall discuss his role in the CIA's secret war against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 1980s, his time in the Army's Special Forces after the Vietnam War, where the War on Terror went right and wrong, and how his experience as an operator, intelligence officer, and DoD official across four decades informs his view of how the U.S. should approach national security challenges of the 2020s.