This week, we're joined by Meg Robichaud and Ryan Putnam—incredible illustrators working at Lyft and Messenger, respectively—to follow up on a topic from last week's episode. Meg and Ryan share some of their experiences working as illustrators on product teams, and they shed a little light on how free resources can sometimes have a negative impact on illustration as a valued discipline. And as always, we share some cool things like a collection of essays, some creepy VHS tapes, a couple radio plays, a new Netflix series, and another design podcast.

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Follow-up:

• Michael Knepprath pointed out that Don Norman has updated his views on the role of aesthetics in design

Interview:

• Meg Robichaud is an illustrator at Lyft, and Ryan Putnam is Art Director on the Brand team at Messenger
  • Incidentally, they are not in fact Meg Ryan
• Pablo Stanley announced Open Doodles and got Design Twitter talking
• Bootstrap is "an open source toolkit for developing with HTML, CSS, and JS"
• Stripe is "the best software platform for running an internet business"

One Cool Thing:

• Meg shared Trick Mirror: Reflections, an "enlightening, unforgettable trip through the river of self-delusion that surges just beneath the surface of our lives"
• Ryan shared scary VHS covers like Ghoulies and House
• Marshall shared two radio play podcasts:
  • The Edge of Sleep is about "a night watchman [who] is terrified to discover that everyone in the world who went to sleep the previous night has died"
  • Blackout is about "a small-town New Hampshire radio DJ who fights to protect his family and community after the power grid goes down nationwide, upending modern civilization" (and it reminds Marshall a bit of The Mist)
• Brian shared two halvsies:
  • Living with Yourself is about a guy "burned out on life who undergoes a strange procedure at a strip mall spa -- and wakes to find he's been replaced by a better version of himself"
  • Design Life is "a podcast about design and side projects for motivated creators"
    • "170: Jumping from junior to senior designer"

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