Otegha Uwagba is a Sunday times bestselling writer, speaker, podcaster and much more. Her latest book, "We Need to Talk About Money" is part memoir, part cultural commentary on the culture surrounding money in modern Britain. We talked about damaging secrecy around salaries; how social status is more complicated than just being upper, middle or working class; media representation and the race beat; and why being "good with money", in the sense of being very frugal and saving every penny, is not the same thing as financial wellbeing.

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