Check out our Crawlspace subscription service where we have a bonus show and ad-free episodes! https://crawlspace.supportingcast.fm/ Use promo code, "Crawlspace" for your first month FREE! Check out our Missing subscription service where we have a bonus show and ad-free episodes! https://missing.supportingcast.fm/ Use promo code, "Missing" for your first month FREE! Welcome to Crawlspace. In this episode Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna speak with Daniel Stone about his new book, Sinkable. In Sinkable, Daniel spins a fascinating tale of history, science, and obsession, uncovering the untold story of the Titanic not as a ship but as a shipwreck. He explores generations of eccentrics, like American Charles Smith, whose 1914 recovery plan using a synchronized armada of ships bearing electromagnets was complex, convincing, and utterly impossible; Jack Grimm, a Texas oil magnate who fruitlessly dropped a fortune to find the wreck after failing to find Noah’s Ark; and the British Doug Woolley, a former pantyhose factory worker who has claimed, since the 1960s, to be the true owner of the Titanic wreckage. Daniel is a national bestselling writer on science, history, and adventure. He's a senior editor for National Geographic and a former White House Correspondent for Newsweek. He's a professor of environmental science at Johns Hopkins University. https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/authors/2154901/daniel-stone/ https://www.danielstonebooks.com/ https://www.amazon.com/Sinkable-Obsession-Deep-Shipwreck-Titanic/dp/B09MVCQ74Y https://www.amazon.com/Food-Explorer-Adventures-Globe-Trotting-Transformed/dp/1101990589/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= Follow Daniel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/danenroute Daniel mentions Project Azorian in this interview. Here is a link to learn more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian This episode is brought to you in part by our wonderful sponsors, Modern Fertility & Best Fiends. Get $30 off your fertility test when you go to ModernFertility.com/crawlspace30. Download the FREE Upside App and use promo code: Crawlspace to get $5 or more cash back on your first purchase of $10 or more. Download your new favorite getaway, BEST FIENDS, for FREE today on the App Store or Google Play. Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod  Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast  Follow us on Instagram: https://www.Instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast The music for Crawlspace was produced by David Flajnik. Listen to his music here: https://www.pond5.com/artist/bigdsound  Check out our entire network at media.com/">http://crawlspace-media.com/ Join the Crawlspace Discussion Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/talkcrawlspace/ Crawlspace Media is part of the Glassbox Media Network. Check them out here: https://glassboxmedia.com/ Go to https://smile.amazon.com/ to connect your existing Amazon account to donate to PI's For the Missing. Follow Private Investigations For the Missing https://investigationsforthemissing.org/ http://piftm.org/donate https://twitter.com/PIFortheMissing https://www.facebook.com/PIFortheMissing/ https://www.instagram.com/investigationsforthemissing/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices