Michael currently serves as the Founder and CEO of Garden City, a purpose-driven holding company that buys, grows, and permanently holds family-owned companies. Once acquired, Garden City seeks to grow them through culture, technology, and sales. Most recently, Michael was an early employee & executive at DocuSign, serving as Global Vice President, General Manager, and Chief of Staff to the CEO. DocuSign has now achieved a $30B market cap with 5,000 employees. In 2016, he founded MAV Ventures, a venture capital group that has invested in over 100+ companies and multiple funds. Michael also co-founded New Story, a non-profit that has built 2,000+  homes in developing countries and is recognized for creating the world’s first-ever 3D Home Printer. He graduated from the University of Alabama with a Bachelor of Arts degree in Business Management, and he lives in Atlanta with his wife and three children. Mike is a follower of Jesus and seeks to honor God in everything he does. On this episode, Chris and Mike discuss: His story and how he learned to be world-class at sales. (He was the #1 CutCo Knife salesman in the US) How Garden City values and ultimately transacts on businesses. How Garden City creates value for the companies they acquire.  Why he chose a permanent capital structure.  Learn more about Chris Powers and Fort Capital: www.FortCapitalLP.com Follow Fort Capital on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/fort-capital/ Follow Chris on Twitter: www.Twitter.com/FortWorthChris  Follow Chris on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/chrispowersjr/  Subscribe to The Fort on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuJ32shRt8Od3MxMY-keTSQ Michael on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MikeArrieta Garden City: https://www.joingardencity.com/ (2:10) - Michael’s career and background (4:51) - What did you do that made you the top Knife salesman in the country? (9:45) - What can get someone to believe in their product or company? (12:46) - What does a Chief of Staff do? (16:58) - Why do you have an affinity for boring SMB’s? (19:50) - What led you to the realization that you wanted to start acquiring businesses? (23:30) - What are you tangibly doing to make people the focus of the businesses you buy? (29:21) - What’s your filter for red flags in businesses you look at acquiring? (32:19) - In what capacity do you want the previous owner involved after an acquisition? (33:49) - What do the first 90 days look like post-acquisition? (37:11)  - How do you find the line between letting the business run and being very hands on as owners? (40:20) - When an owner doesn’t stay on, how quickly do you have to get on with replacing the CEO? (43:06) - What are most of these SMB’s lacking generally from a technology standpoint? (46:17) - How do you find someone who is going to be really accountable for making sure tech is adopted? (48:50) - How do you approach Sales training? (53:45) - Why did you choose to pursue Permanent Capital? (57:01) - How do you think about the platform of being able to help people when you’re a business owner? (1:00:58) - Is it possible to instill this mindset in an already existing business? (1:02:33) - How does Permanent Capital work? (1:04:46) - How do you think about cash flowing out of the businesses you own? (1:07:06) - Do you have an example of a Christian Business owner who is killing it in both their career and their faith? Sacred Pace by Terry Looper: https://amzn.to/3qxTMtV (1:10:17) - Why did you consciously decide to slow down? What have been the consequences of that decision? Becoming a King by Morgan Snyder: https://amzn.to/3Lq7GYV The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer: https://amzn.to/3ddXrtR The Fort is produced by Johnny Podcasts