Welcome back to another conversation with an extraordinary traveller. When I was in Yerevan, Armenia, I met some of the world’s most travelled people, and in this mini-series, all in December, you can get to meet many of them.

Charles Veley is an American extreme traveller. Some people call him “The Godfather of Extreme Systematic Travel”, and according to Wikipedia, he can claim the title of the world's most-travelled person. But even Charles himself says that it depends on how you count it.

He’s been to every UN Nation in the world and was the youngest ever to complete the Travelers' Century Club’s official list of countries and territories.

That’s two of the lists out there – the UN list and TCC, but there are more. Now there’s also the Nomad Mania list, founded by a previous guest on The Radio Vagabond, Harry Mitsidis, and then Charles Veley’s own list, Most Traveled People (known as MTP).

Next episode from Yerevan

On Sunday we’re joined by Francis Tapon who visited every country in Africa without leaving the continent and tried to climb the highest peak in each country. And then he picked up 3,000 African hitchhikers.

And more about hitchhiking when we speak with Daniel Shachory. He’s on a quest to hitchhike in every country in the world, and he will share some good tips and tricks on how to get a ride.

My name is Palle Bo. See you.