The Internet and the World Wide Web began as an open, inter-operable commons with limitless potential and creativity. So how did everything get so corporate? Author and media theorist Douglas Rushkoff believes the next chapter(s) of the Internet could take a cue from Wikipedia or the communal kibbutz, rather than a for-profit metaverse ... if we want it. Alli and Lindsey talk with Rushkoff about the aspirational origins of the Web, what we can do to program a better future, and why millions of digital cottage industries are probably better than 5 insatiable tech conglomerates. Rushkoff will be teaching a university course on this topic in New York: https://rushkoff.medium.com/re-designing-the-internet-2593fe7dae8d And you'll enjoy his podcast, Team Human: https://www.teamhuman.fm/ Follow Douglas: https://twitter.com/rushkoff Support 2G1P on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/2G1P Join the 2G1P Discord community:http://discord.gg/2g1p Join the 2G1P Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2girls1podcast/ Email us: 2G1Podcast@gmail.com Call the show and leave a message! (347) 871-6548   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices