I had the opportunity to interview Abby Cleckner. We talked about government as a means whereby society diffuses their responsibility. 0:00 Intro 8:15 Three diffusions of power 10:45 Top down diffusion 16:10 Milgram Experiment 20:45 resources 22:00 importance of integrity and small faithfulness 26:05 how government diffuses/concentrates responsibility upward 31:20 outsourcing to state 34:45 isn't Anarchism a false dichotomy? 39:00 refusing to play the game illigitimates the state 40:00 doesn't pooling our power help to solve bigger problems 42:30 States create the problems we ask them to fix 46:15 bystander effect 47:45 power corrupts 56:00 positive diffusion of power 1:00:00 body of Christ/church as politics 1:09:15 importance of all members and actions 1:11:00 Abby plug 1:11:35 Outro thoughts

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• Adin Ballou: https://archive.org/details/christiannonres00ballgoog
• Abby Cleckner Podcast/Article: https://www.thebadroman.com/show-notes/episode-49 
• Milgram Experiment: https://www.simplypsychology.org/milgram.html 
• "Ordinary Men": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/647492.Ordinary_Men?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=aRJ3vzYP9K&rank=1
• "They Thought They Were Free": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/978689.They_Thought_They_Were_Free?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=wkBRNkaOz3&rank=1"Defying Hitler": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/65458.Defying_Hitler 
• The Bad Roman Project: https://www.thebadroman.com/ 
• Stanford Prison Experiment: https://www.prisonexp.org/ 
• "I Got a Monster": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51171365-i-got-a-monster?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=GES4IA1axW&rank=1
• Hauerwas and the church as politics: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/unsystematictheology/2016/10/hauerwas-on-the-political-task-of-the-church-in-america/

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