James Carse is the author of Finite and Infinite Games and was a Professor and Director at NYU for 30 years. In his book he discusses the two types of games- “One could be called finite; the other infinite.” Finite games are the familiar contests of everyday life; they are played in order to be won, which is when they end, but infinite games are more mysterious. Their object is not winning, but ensuring the continuation of play.  His book is one you go back to and reread again and again throughout the years. This is a fascinating conversation exploring interesting topics such as teaching, thinking, discovering what drives you and so much more!

"The first challenge a teacher has is getting their students to realize what they know—to come to terms with their knowledge, and therefore, know the limits of their knowledge. That's where you begin to think. You don't think about what you know; you think about the edge of what you know."- James Carse 

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