In this episode Co-host David Bilbrey continues to explore the edge between permaculture, business, and social change by sitting down with Dr. Otto Scharmer. Together they talk about Dr. Scharmer’s work on Presencing and Theory U, the development of effective organizations, and how each of us can become more powerful changemakers.

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Find more of Dr. Scharmer’s work at OttoScharmer.com, with the other sources mentioned in the resource section below.

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Resources Otto Scharmer Presencing Institute Theory U Books MITx u.Lab Peter Senge The Limits to Growth (Wikipedia) Club of Rome EdX Capitalism-Lab.pdf#/">Transforming Capitalism Lab