I’m excited to be speaking with Ian Leslie in this episode. Ian is a writer, speaker, and author of acclaimed books on human behaviour. He also writes about psychology, culture, technology and business for the New Statesman, the Economist, the Guardian and the Financial Times.

Ian and I discuss his fascinating new book Conflicted: Why Arguments Are Tearing Us Apart and How They Can Bring Us Together which draws essential lessons on how to disagree well from world-class experts: interrogators, hostage negotiators, divorce mediators, diplomats and addiction counsellors. It tells inspiring stories of productive disagreements and combines them with fascinating insights from the science of human communication. Whether it's at work, at home, or in public, confronting our differences is the only way to make the most of them. Conflicted is about how to do that successfully.