Farmers and crofters in Scotland have criticised the Scottish Government's lack of detail about future payments and the structure of farm support. The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs and Islands, Mairi Gougeon, announced a long-awaited 'roadmap' for agricultural reform at the National Farmers Union for Scotland conference, at the end of last week. And if you can't see the wood for the trees then a satellite might provide a much better perspective! We hear from a company monitoring forests, natural capital and carbon capture from space. Presented by Anna Hill Produced for BBC Audio in Bristol by Heather Simons