🌎 In this episode, Silas Mahner (@silasmahner) speaks with John Fazzolari (@fazz), the co-CEO and co-founder of Revivn, a hardware lifecycle management company that helps corporates repurpose their used electronic devices. John has a fascinating story of building this company and despite us only recording for about 30 min, we covered a lot of ground. From why they bootstrapped the company, to his Rigatoni list for hiring purposes, to using operational complexity as a moat, to ensuring your 3rd party contractors care as much as you do about customer success, it's a great episode. Let us know your favorite part by reaching out. Enjoy the Episode! 🌎---🌎 If you'd like to see the full PodLetter, go to our substack to see all the written content that supplements the audio interview.  ---📺 👀 Prefer to watch: subscribe on YouTube.📫 Interested in written summaries and takeaways from the episode? Subscribe to the newsletter. Want to be part of the community and engage further? Check out the Slack Channel. https://tinyurl.com/mwkn8zk5----- Topics: **2:20 Intro to John**3:00 Why the un-used hardware space**4:05 Creating the Category **6:05 The Story of How They Built**7:35 How they work**9:10 Cost Savings **12:20 Logistics - Their Moat is Complex Coordination**14:45 How to scale logistics company business **16:10 How to control customer quality experience **18:45 Examples of their impact**22:00 Why they bootstrapped **23:55 Advice on Fundraising **27:10 Advice on Hiring | The Rigatoni List **30:00 How to understand if someone has potential **31:58 Advice to Young Entrepreneurs in Climate**34:38 Other Ideas 

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