On this episode of The Horrible Movie Podcast, Jack and Producer Phil talk to Derek Webb! Derek is a 20-year veteran of the music industry, creator of NoiseTrade.com, Middleclassmusician.com, and a founding member of Caedmon's Call. Derek is also featured in our Song of the Week segment this week. Derek talks about the music industry and how to carve out a career that can sustain. He also talks about his house shows, the unique way they're put together and why they've been successful for him. The movie we talk about is Jobs (2013). Yes, the Steve Jobs movie that Ashton Kutcher starred in. Gather the family around the old smartphone and hear about the guy that helped design it! Only on HMP.