Charla and Lauren have used Twitter to follow people they admire while learning information that they might not have found elsewhere. That’s why watching our guest Jamilah Lemieux challenge the status quo has been a thrilling longtime activity. In this conversation Charla and Lauren find out exactly how she has been able to fight the trolls while also maintaining a sense of self. They also get into topics like abortion, motherhood and what it really means to get older.

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